# Accessing the children of pages via joins

[Joins]((/reference/field-types/joinbyone) are one of Apostrophe's best features:

addFields: [
  {
    name: '_pages',
    type: 'joinByArray',
    withType: 'apostrophe-page',
    label: 'Pages',
    idsField: 'pageIds'
  }
]

But if you try to access the _children property of those pages, you'll be disappointed at first.

Child pages get fetched only if the children() filter is called on the cursor that fetches those docs. This takes extra time and does extra work, and most joins don't need them. So by default, they are not fetched.

Fortunately, you can turn on extra cursor filters yourself in any join:

addFields: [
  {
    name: '_pages',
    type: 'joinByArray',
    withType: 'apostrophe-page',
    label: 'Pages',
    idsField: 'pageIds',
    filters: {
      children: true
    }
  }
]

# Fetching thumbnails

By default, children will not load any widgets present in the child pages, again for performance reasons.

Here's how to turn it on for just one area, a singleton widget called thumbnail:

addFields: [
  {
    name: '_pages',
    type: 'joinByArray',
    withType: 'apostrophe-page',
    label: 'Pages',
    idsField: 'pageIds',
    filters: {
      children: {
        areas: [ 'thumbnail' ]
      }
    }
  }
]

If we pass an object to children, its properties are invoked as cursor filters when fetching the children. The same trick works with ancestors.

# Projections and children

If you are using the projection filter to load just the absolute minimum information about those pages, children won't work, because it requires a little more information about the original pages to understand their place in the page tree.

Here is the absolute minimum projection needed for use with children:

addFields: [
  {
    name: '_pages',
    type: 'joinByArray',
    withType: 'apostrophe-page',
    label: 'Pages',
    idsField: 'pageIds',
    filters: {
      children: true,
      projection: {
        title: 1,
        slug: 1,
        rank: 1,
        level: 1,
        path: 1
      }
    }
  }
]

But while using projections is fastest, you can improve performance quite a lot just by not loading areas:

addFields: [
  {
    name: '_pages',
    type: 'joinByArray',
    withType: 'apostrophe-page',
    label: 'Pages',
    idsField: 'pageIds',
    filters: {
      children: true,
      areas: false
    }
  }
]